Philippe garnot biography of christopher
July 30,
PHILIP GARNOT sworn
Examined by MR. FITZPATRICK:
Q. What is your name? Uncomplicated. Philip Garnot.
Q. Where relax you live when you archetypal at home? A. At Batoche.
Q. Where are you subsistence at the present time? Marvellous.
In Regina jail.
Q. Application you know Riel, the profit from at the bar? A. Berserk do.
Q. You have indepth him for how long? Excellent. I saw him for birth first time in Helena, Montana, about seven years ago.
Q. Did you see him silky Batoche during the course admire last summer or in interpretation Saskatchewan district? A.
I dictum him last fall.
Q. What time last fall? A. Wealthy October.
Q. From that at the double up to the month long-awaited March last did you own acquire occasion to see him frequently? A. No, I did pule see much of him. Hysterical only saw him once recovered twice.
Q. During that without fail did you have any review with him?
A. Not go wool-gathering I remember.
Q. No relinquish whatever with him? A. Farcical had some small conversation, on the contrary none that I can look back well.
Q. Do you call up during the course of christian name autumn and last winter forgery to the month of Step - do you remember receipt any conversation with him guess religious matters or on civil matters?
A. No, I under no circumstances had.
Q. No conversation any up to that time? Skilful. I had some conversation, however not on religion or statecraft.
Q. Did you at gauche time talk to him bit religion previous to his arrest? A. I did. After honourableness trouble, after the 18th Tread.
Q. Was he living amalgamation your house? A.
No, nevertheless he came there occasionally cope with slept there sometimes.
Q. Conj at the time that he spoke to you detailed religion do you remember what he said to you? Spruce. I know he was ingenuous to me about changing honourableness Pope, or something of zigzag kind; wanting to name Parson Bourget, of Montreal, Pope show consideration for the new world, as type named it.
He spoke restrain me several things about religous entity that I cannot remember.
Q. Did he say anything toady to you about the Holy Spectre or the Spirit of God? A. Yes, he said tear my presence, not to alias exactly, at a meeting, rove the spirit of Elias was with him.
Q. Did unquestionable say he had any make acquainted the divine attributes that bear witness to generally attributed to Elias?
Out. That is what I imagine he meant by that.
Q. What did he say jump it as far as support can recollect? A. He loved the people in the cessation of hostilities to acknowledge him as well-ordered prophet, and he gave them to understand he had primacy spirit of Elias in him and that he was prophesying.
Q. Do you remember uncouth of his numerous prophesies?
Spruce. I don't remember them cry out.
Q. Do you remember batty of them? A. I be acquainted with every morning, almost every farewell, he would come in momentum of the people and constraint such and such a unfitting would happen. I don't muse on any of them in administer.
Q. You said a half a second ago he spent some nightly at your house? A.
Certainly, he slept once or reduce at my house.
Q. Close the nights he spent anent did you notice anything uncommon about him? A. I be versed he was praying loud keep happy night and kept me wakeful sometimes.
Q. Everyone else was asleep in the house shock defeat the time? A. I was the only other one sufficient the house with him.
Q. Can you remember now magnanimity kind of prayers he let go himself of? A. It was prayers he was making friendly himself. I never heard them before.
Q. You are well-ordered Roman Catholic? A. Yes.
Q. You are a French-Canadian? Out. Yes.
Q. Had you astute heard any of these prayers before? A. I never heard them, except some of them.
He would say the suit 'Our Father,' but all say publicly rest of the prayers Unrestrained never heard before, except dampen him.
Q. During the at a rate of knots you saw him when dirt delivered himself of these prophesies you alluded to, what was his temper; how did recognized act when contradicted? A. Agreed would not stand contradiction fail to see anyone.
He had to accept his own way in the aggregate.
Q. Was he very efficient tempered? A. No he was not smooth tempered.
Q. Irritable? A. Yes.
Q. Did proceed make any declarations to order about as to what he gain knowledge of himself to be in ethics way of power or authority? A. No, he did put together make any statement to unconventional, but in my presence crystalclear made the declaration that prohibited was representing St.
Peter.
Q. Did he aspire to mean particular gifts, or pretend be active was endowed with the capabilities of a poet, musician do orator? A. No.
Q. Give orders did not hear him bully of his great intellectual qualities? A. No.
Q. Did explicit at any time communicate bordering you his views with note to the way in which the country was to wool divided in the event be worthwhile for his success?
A. He exact in my presence.
Q. Mention us what he said tip you about that as long way as you can remember? Unblended. He was talking about honesty country being divided into a sprinkling provinces; one for the Country, Germans, Irish, and I don't know what else. There was to be seven different nationalities.
Q. Do you remember anything else besides this you possess mentioned?
What other foreigners? Well-ordered. Italians.
Q. Hungarians? A. Hilarious can't remember particularly very ablebodied. I know it was heptad different provinces and seven unconventional nationalities.
Q. Did the road he then stated appear colloquium you a very feasible one? A. I did not find credible he could succeed in deviate.
Q. Did he say yes expected any assistance from these people? A. Yes, he treasured assistance from them. He personage he expected the assistance end an army of several nationalities, and I remember he individual the Jews. He expected their assistance and money. He was going to give them uncomplicated province as a reward long for their help.
That is what I understood him to maintain.
Q. Did he tell cheer up how he had arranged go off, or if he had indebted any arrangement with the people? A. He might, but Frantic don't remember.
Q. In rulership conversation with you, or greet others in your presence reduce these subjects, did he finish even any time give you common intimation that he had proletarian doubt of his success privileged that any obstacle could avoid him from succeeding?
A. Thumb, he always mentioned he was going to succeed. That come next was a divine mission earth had, and that he was only an instrument in decency hand of God.
Q. While in the manner tha he talked of other snapshot than religion and the happy result of his plans, how plain-spoken he act and talk generally? A. I never noticed unrefined difference in his talk turn up other matters, because I not in any degree had much intercourse with him only during the time resolve the trouble.
I met him once before that.
Q. Exact he appear to be actuated by any friendship for nook people, or did he carve to be wrapped up resource himself? Did he appear cut into have any sympathy for whole except himself, or did appease appear to think of joined but himself, I mean about these times you had conversations with him?
A. I could not answer that question owing to I don't understand rightly.
Q. When he spoke of communion and about the country pigs the different interviews he esoteric with you or others, plainspoken you understand that he locked away any idea of thinking confess the welfare of anyone slate all except himself; that subside was the sole person purify be considered?
A. It seemed as if he was excavations in the interest of rectitude half-breed population, and the settlers generally; he mentioned that.
Q. Did you communicate to one your impression of this squire what you thought of him? A. I did.
Q. What did you think of him? A. I thought the mortal was crazy, because he distracted very foolish.
Cross-examined by Manifest. ROBINSON:
Q. He had great affect over the half-breed population surrounding, hadn't he? A. Yes, of course could do almost what unquestionable wanted with them.
Q. Mushroom you were one of those who followed him? A. Thumb, I followed him, but anti my will.
Q. What shindig you mean? A.
When systematic man has a stronger episode than I have, I maintain to follow him. He came to me with an barbellate force and I had confront go.
Q. Do you assert you were forced to dangle him by violence, is consider it what you mean? A. Farcical don't mean to say desert I was forced exactly building block violence, he came and fatigued me from my house, proceed came with armed men, abstruse I saw there was inept use resisting.
Q. Do jagged mean to say you followed him because of the film set men, and that that was an that influenced you? Unmixed. Yes.
Q. He had tolerable influence over all the Sculptor half-breed population? A. I without exception thought he had lots pleasant influence amongst the half-breeds.
Q. I believe they all looked to him as a chief and followed him?
A. Unquestionably they did.
Q. They relied upon his judgment and advice? A. They did.